Well, Teribus, if you ever told me that you "respected" me I think I'd have to submit to therapy to find out where I'd gone so badly wrong. Just consider: there's you, there's bobad, there's Keith and (if you're really unlucky) there's akenaton. Our working at getting your "respect" is our absolute bottom priority. You need to take stock, old chap. Only Keith is listening. That should make you feel uncomfortable. The purpose of debate is to persuade. You work against yourself in that regard, big time.