I have been out of the country for a fortnight with almost no Internet access. What strikes me most is that a great deal of "Whither Labour" material has been in the news from court arguments to head to head debates, yet despite constant posts this thread has not progressed at all.

I anticipate a few brickbats being thrown at me but thereafter the same posts just continuing to recur with slightly different insults and phrasing.   It is not a pretty sight.