I don't think I understand you, michaelr. Is your calling Hillary "odious" another form of so-called "irony"? Well, what people think of as irony, often does not come across clearly on the Internet.

If you say something you think ironic and people don't understand it, don't blame them.

The fact of the matter, is that Hillary Clinton is an excellent candidate for President and deserves to be elected on her own merits, not merely because she's not as bad as Trump.

-Joe Offer-