Jim Carroll - 24 Sep 16 - 10:51 AM

"That's new addition - The fasts of this were put up well over a year ago duning one of Keith's bouts of atrocity- denying put up at least a thread ago
I was reading it the other day when I was confirming that you were twelling lies about my "secret Graves".
No mass graves were looked for, which is the point of Fisk's artificial;
Do you actually have anything that resembles evidence?"

Let me see now, we have:

Sports Stadiums with "underground holding centres"
Bodies being buried inside the Sports Centre
Bodies not being buried in the Sports Centre but being transported on flatbed trucks to a Golf Course (Which J.I.M. is further than 300 yards from the Camille Chamoun Stadium)
1 Israeli bulldozers just outside the entrance to the camp
10 Israeli bulldozers inside the camp
3 Israeli bulldozers either at the Sports Stadium or at a Golf Course which lies to the South of the Stadium towards the airport.
Israeli's burying bodies to "ascertain that the true numbers will never be known" or words to that effect, which would of course logically require that the location of any such mass graves would have to be secret, yet according to J.I.M.'s eye-witnesses the Israeli's were observed doing all this a) Inside the camp, b) At the Sports Stadium and c) At the Club Libanais de Golf

See any contradictions in that lot J.I.M.?

What evidence do I have?
Well it can be summed up by lack of evidence really. If 3,500 people have been murdered then something must have been done to destroy the evidence that they have been killed. The ICRC and the Lebanese Authorities cleared the camp site after the massacre by LF militias in 1982 the number of dead is nowhere near the figure touted by J.I.M.
Now if a foreign force came into my country, my capital city and murdered 3,500 of my fellow countrymen then bundled them unceremoniously into mass graves that could be located through eye-witness accounts, then the second that foreign force had departed I would have those bodies exhumed and given decent burial, I would also invite independent observers from the UN and ICC along with the world's press to record the exhumations in order to confront and bring the perpetrators to justice. But none of that happened did it J.I.M. Can you offer up any sensible, logical reason why those bodies were never exhumed? Why no mass graves were ever looked for or even marked?

More "evidence" or more accurately more lack of evidence. One of J.I.M.'s eye-witnesses stated that she had seen bodies being buried at the Camille Chamoun Sports City Stadium which was destroyed during fighting in 1982. While not actually looking for mass graves extensive construction work was carried out on this site subsequent to the events of 1982, the complete redevelopment and reconstruction of the entire complex would have required extensive excavation and guess what J.I.M. - no bodies, let alone mass graves were uncovered. Robert Fisk in writing his book "Pity the Nation" in 1990 would not have known about that as construction work on the Camille Chamoun Site did not commence until 1997.