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Thread #160697   Message #3812474
Posted By: Steve Shaw
03-Oct-16 - 08:13 AM
Thread Name: BS: Feelings = Facts
Subject: RE: BS: Feelings = Facts
Well I do suggest that millions of voters DID fall for a pack of lies. That immigration is severely damaging our country (it is actually of massive benefit) and our borders are "out of control" - meaningless gibberish. Nothing is going to change apropos of immigration as long as we need those doctors, nurses, dentists, plumbers and electricians that we fail to train ourselves, nothing. Even Iain Duncan-Smith, scumbag and brexiteer par excellence, admitted that yesterday. And the brexiteers "forgot" to tell you that we get more immigration from outside the EU than from within that we COULD control if we wanted, but we don't.   Worse, these two separate false claims were conflated into a racist narrative. That we "give" the EU £350 million per week. That we are inundated with undesirable laws and bureaucracy "made in Brussels" - we are not - we make those laws AND we have embraced thousands of them, almost the whole lot, enthusiastically, demurring over and often changing the very few we don't like. We do not fight wars with our historical European enemies any more and never will as long as the EU exists. You say you are old. Well congratulations for helping to decide an adverse future for this country not for you but for generations to come. I don't doubt that many leave-voters were sincere, but the evidence for leaving that they relied on doesn't amount to a hill of beans, just waffle about "getting our democracy back," putting EU money back into the NHS (you will never see the day, and I think you know it) and, even vaguer, making Britain great again in the brave new world of free trade. And who were you listening to when you took that on board? Why, a bunch of flag-waving little Englanders who secretly think that all foreigners are inferior and there to be exploited (like, let THEM train the doctors and nurses - their work permits are already at the printers...)