That is true, but Corbyn and Benn are not in this forum and they are not being confronted by Keith A of Hertford and bobad. The other thread was closed, rightly, but these two have migrated here and as such I see little point in going on. They have injected the same poison into this thread as they did in the other one. Of course, we all know the answer. Unfortunately, the answer is not being achieved. Human nature I suppose. They can't debate, they are seriously and incurably bigoted, and I for one can't debate with them.