"The people who work their backs to improve the land are not landlords. They are ordinary working people. They are entitled to expect that the fruits of their efforts will be used one hundred percent for their benefit, not for the benefit of someone who lives in a distant mansion on a massive private estate who already has more money than he knows what to do with." - Steve Shaw

Back to the mythical "socialist" stereotypes.

Those ordinary working people pay rent or have a lease on the farms where they use the land to produce whatever their farm might produce. And guess what Shaw? Not only are they currently entitled to 100% of the profits of the "fruits of their labours" after of course they have paid whatever tax they should to another load of parasites called the elected Government and the Treasury. What these ordinary working people do not have to pay are the land taxes for the land they farm and when they die as we all have to they do not have to pay death duties on the value of the property they farm. The owners of it however do have to pay it.

But let's have a look at this "socialist" stereotype that Shaw believes exists. According to his "politics of envy script" these people have been unscrupulously exploiting and beating down the ordinary working people Since 1066 apparently. So successful have they been in this endeavour according to Shaw that by now there must be at least 30 of these super-rich parasites for every single "ordinary working person" in the country - after all they've held all the power and they've made all the rules. Of course the stereotype that Shaw believes in doesn't exist - It is all total, complete and utter bollocks.

Someone up above in this thread mentioned the "enclosures" and he and Shaw immediately assumed that it was the aristocracy who "stole" land, you know those land owning parasites living in "a distant mansion on a massive private estate who already has more money than he knows what to do with."- but of course they didn't, by and large, in the wake of the "black death" they already had all the land that they could manage and cope with. And large tracts of "common land" lay idle for centuries. The people who took over that land were the rich yeoman farmers, in a bid to expand their earning potential and wealth beyond what they already earned from working as tenant farmers for the aristocracy, it also gave them title to land of their own. Yep Steve the class responsible were not those land owning parasites living in a distant mansion on a massive private estate who already has more money than he knows what to do with. - It was the class that has achieved the greatest and most permanent and meaningful social and political changes throughout history - the "middle-class".