"are about the here and now and what is best for the country in the future"

I think that's quite wrong, I see 'the empire' frequently referred to on social media etc. There is a distinct feeling amongst some Scots Nats that they are shrugging off an age old oppressor and corruptor of their culture. In a sense this is true in that the south-east of England has a disproportionate influence over as Scotland, Wales and the North of Ireland as well as the rest of England, but the idea that 'the English' were the sole protagonists in Empire and everyone else was roped is wrong. This is part of the attitude of superiority coming from north of the border.

"or even in fact out of the Leave campaign or May's current gvt"

Agree. I have as much influence over any of those goons as anyone in Scotland does. No-one speaks for me; I live in a safe tory seat and with the proposed gerrymandering it'll become totally unassailable.

I don't blame the Scots for wanting to leave (as we're now ruled by fuckwits and liars), but it still saddens me so much to see the ordinary working folk of the UK being divided by the drift to the right we are currently enduring. It spells the end of our collective bargaining power that, should we ever become a cohesive people again would be the only thing that will save us from the flag wavers, demagogues and populists that are becoming free to stamp on all of our rights.

I always great that the future would be one of coming together for the common good, but it appears all everyone wants to do is withdraw to their own patch of turf.


"I suspect Stu that you don't really know the meaning of "multiculturalism""

I suspect I certainly do; I live in a multicultural society and am all the better for it. You've been left behind old fella!