That is not true. If you get shot down here either by the usual suspects or the usual convicts, it's either because you've advocated badly or because you're being got at by someone who doesn't matter who has a bee in his bonnet. That's how it is here and it ill-behoves anyone who rolls in the mud to moan about it. McGrath never gets shot down. DMcG, with whom I often disagree, never gets shot down. Senoufou never gets shot down. Kampervan and Bill D never get shot down. As those yanks say, go figure.