"Interesting that we each acknowledge 'our' preferred state does bad things for good reasons. So we neither think one equivalent to the other.
It was you singling out Cuba as somehow better than all that. Now that you admit it's not pure, as the old joke goes, now all we're arguing about is the price. And I think the Cubans were sold out pretty cheaply."

You know what you can do with your "preferred states" nonsense. I stick up for the ordinary people who are trying to do the best for themselves and their families, not "states." I've stuck up for the ordinary people of Israel dozens of times on this forum. I want their state to be as good as it can be, thank you, just as I want the ordinary Cuban people's state to be as good as it can be. And, if you don't mind, less of the "now that I admit" bullshit, implying that I've relented on something, which I haven't. Finally, I'm not having that silly penny-in-the-slot nonsense about doing "bad things for good reasons." If we want to talk about the complexities of national and international politics constructively we have to do a lot better than that. You can boil things down way too far, you know.