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Thread #161140 Message #3827334
Posted By: Teribus
19-Dec-16 - 05:20 AM
Thread Name: BS: Joe McCann
Subject: RE: BS: Joe McCann
Saville Report - Volume 1 - Chapter 3
3.10At about the same time as Colonel Wilford sent this message, two soldiers of Machine Gun Platoon fired between them five shots from the derelict building on William Street, shown on the map below. Their target was Damien Donaghey (aged 15), who was on the other side of William Street and who was wounded in the thigh. Unknown to the soldiers John Johnston (aged 55), who was a little distance behind Damian Donaghey, was also hit and injured by fragments from this gunfire.
3.11Shortly after this incident a member of the Official IRA (Given the cipher OIRA 1) fired a rifle at soldiers who were on a wall on the side of the Presbyterian Church. The shot was fired from a position across William Street. We set out below a map showing the area in which these casualties occurred and the position from which OIRA 1 fired.
3.12The shot fired by OIRA 1 missed soldiers and hit a drainpipe running down the side of the Presbyterian Church. OIRA 1 and another Official IRA man with him (OIRA 2) insisted that this shot had been fired as a reprisal for the shooting of Damien Donaghey and John Johnston. We were not convinced of this, although we considered on balance that the IRA shot was fired after the wounding of Damian Donaghey and John Johnston. In our view these two Official IRA members had gone to a pre-arranged sniping position in order to fire at the soldiers; and probably did so when an opportunity presented itself rather than because two civilians had been injured.
Now I suppose in his usual fashion Jim Carroll will say that I have just made this up but the source and reference has been given and the evidence to support the above was given under oath to the Saville Inquiry.
Jim Carroll said:
"No evidence has been produced that they were and there was no evidence of arms apart from those used to gun down protesters"
The above totally refutes that claim of his.
Oh and as far as Jim Carroll's claims go here is another one from the Saville Report - Volume 1 - Chapter 2:
2.3On the 14th August 1969, after there had been particularly violent clashes between civilians and the police in Londonderry, the authorities brought into the city units of the British Army as an aid to the civil power, in other words to restore law and order. The British Army was in the city in this role on Bloody Sunday.
In an earlier post I stated:
"The "nationalist/Republican" element insisted that they were fighting a war. To the British it was "aid to the civil power" to maintain the rule of law and order." - Teribus
Jim Carroll responded:
"To the British it was "aid to the civil power" to maintain the rule of law and order." - Teribus
Empire Loyalist crap
No Jim the extremely well informed view of Lord Saville and a simple matter of fact.
By the way Jim where in your first Wiki cut'n'paste is there anything to dispute my claim about the reason for "Loyalist" activity in 1966? I see no mention of NICRA.