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Thread #161140 Message #3827756
Posted By: Jim Carroll
21-Dec-16 - 08:59 AM
Thread Name: BS: Joe McCann
Subject: RE: BS: Joe McCann
No - I think that you are a joke trying to sum history from one page of print How exactly did they deal with the period of history I outlined in that one page of print? Did they c0laim that the UVF bombings came after the outbreak of the troubles. WE go to historians for facts of history not opinions. Get ten historians debating on one subject and you end up with fifteen opinions - you feckin' well know this by making your claims on some and rejecting others These affairs are judged on a whole series if levels - political, philosophical, social... history is only part of the mix You don't even understand history, never mind historians Answer the list I have put up - are they accurate or not If they are, how coul they possibly not effect the outcome of what happened in the North and in mainland Britain DID THEY OR DID THEY NOT HAPPEN? Your feckin' misuse of historians is beyond a joke This is exactly what your link says about the beginning of the Troubles – a typical example of your half-arsed and dishonest use of history Even with almost 40 years of hindsight there is no absolute agreement on the date of the start of the recent violent conflict in Northern Ireland. A number of dates have been used by different writers: the Civil Rights March in Derry - 5 October 1968; the beginning of the 'Battle of the Bogside' - 12 August 1969; the Deployment of British Troops - 14 August 1969; or the re-emergence of the UVF in 1966. (Non-violent conflict - political conflict, economic conflict, cultural conflict, etc., - has been a feature of society in the region since the early part of the 17th century. On numerous occasions this conflict has resulted in periods of serious and sustained violence.) If you can't be honest about your sources, don't use them Jim Carroll