Not semantics at all Jim - just a matter of attention to detail, something that you never bother with and something that keeps tripping you up time after time. A sure sign of anyone actually knowing what they are talking about is the fact that they refer to things by their correct names. I mean no-one who had ever served in the Royal Military Police, and no-one who had ever served in the British Army would ever refer to the Royal Military Police as "Redtops".

By the way what points have you made?

First you post that the troubles started with UVF "bombings" (There was in fact only one - and even then they missed their intended target completely) I 1965.

Then I corrected you on the date - 1966 - and gave you Gusty Spence's reasons for the resurrection of the UVF.

You then post a link which you appeared to be in full agreement with which gave the start of the troubles to be late summer 1968.

The basis of your points keep changing so rapidly no-one has time to respond to them.

You asked me what I thought were the causes and I clearly stated poor governance on the part of the Unionists in Northern Ireland and their complete and utter failure to move with the times.