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Thread #161176   Message #3828442
Posted By: Richie
24-Dec-16 - 10:03 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Died for Love: Sources and variants
Subject: RE: Origins: Died for Love: Sources and variants
Hi,

Here's a tidbit of information about title, The Isle of Cloy (Roud 23272, see question 6 above):

   E.J. Moeran collected The Isle of Cloy in the 1930s in Suffolk from George Hill and Oliver Waspe. A.L. Lloyd sang this song in 1956 on his Tradition album The Foggy Dew and Other Traditional English Love Songs:

"It's of a lady in the Isle of Cloy"

It also appears in the Pitts Broadside (above) Rambling Boy:

"My lodgings are in the Isle of Cloy,"

In Recentering Anglo/American Folksong: Sea Crabs and Wicked Youths by Roger Dev Renwick he says, Isle of Cloy is "not found in any official British place names [and hence may be a folk name]"

Notice the slight change in The Cruel Father or Deceived Maid-- Madden Collection:

"A squire's daughter near Aclecloy."

to the accurate place name in a chapbook by J & M Robertson, Saltmarket, Glasgow:

"I'm lately come from Auchnacloy;"

Auchnacloy is an archaic spelling (meaning "field of the stone") for Aughnacloy, County Tyrone in Northern Ireland.

Isle of Cloy= Aclecloy= Auchnacloy

The folk process!!

Richie