There you go again, Keith. Telling us what Mudcat is. It is many things to many people. I shall use it and post to it as I see fit until such a time that I am told otherwise. Just looking down todays threads I can see that many are not discussions as you describe them at all. You tell me I must expect to be challenged and I do. I also expect to be treated with respect and not be told I am empty headed because I do not fit in with your 'rules'. If you are only interested in discussions I can save you a lot of work - Just stay away from the threads that do not fit your criteria.

Seemples

:D tG