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Thread #160410   Message #3833094
Posted By: Jim Carroll
17-Jan-17 - 04:27 AM
Thread Name: BS: Labour party discussion
Subject: RE: BS: Labour party discussion
"Good heavens:"
Pompously strutting as ever, I see
"If they do not wish to recognise that the country and the world today bears no resemblance at all to the one that existed when the Labour Party was created"
You mean back when we had industries and a future
The merging of the political parties has put a stop to that and taken away any chance of development - the British political system has stagnated and democratic choice has become meaningless - how could it be anything else when you are voting for the same policies in different clothes.
Politics has become a career move for politicians and has as little to do with democracy and working for the people as the church has for Christian philosophy
"and only 40 of them actually support the "Great Leader""
My point exactly - the leadership is totally out of step with its own membership, as the votes for Corbyn have shown - no party can boast about that - it takes a extremity right-wing moronic post -Tebbinite opponent to do that.
Antisemitism has been proven so firmly that those who claimed it have been unable to describe it or to quantify it.
Proof positive of its non-existence has been that the leading claimants on this forum have been our in-house Klanners - when they claim something, turn the stone over and look underneath
Unless, of course, Keith and his hangers on's herculean efforts to prove its existence are due to his love of Socialism and his concern for the people!!
"Strange thing to say about the world's fifth largest economy Jim."
Again - my point exactly
We have an unstable economy, no industry, are totally reliant on exports and we have just cut of our nose to spite our face by closing the doors on the possibility of those seeking work finding it elsewhere.
Our economy is geared to making the rich richer and in order to achieve that, working people have no voice in the workplace, no security or choice of employment - zero contracts and an accelerating gap between haves and have nots has become the norm - despite our being "the world's fifth largest economy"
Our greatest import is finance.
Labour has been wiped out in Scotland - doesn't that underline my point
Want to tell me how well the Tories are doing up there?
No- thought not!!
The economists have predicted that it will take at least a decade before the economy stabalises, and even then, it will have fallen considerably below that of pre-Brexit - it hasn't just stagnated it has fallen - no capitalist system, which depends on security and constant growth, can maintain itself in that situation.
The inability of past Governments, Labour and Conservative, to maintain a steady, growing economy has always been the greatest propaganda weapon of their opponents at election time - now insecurity and lack of predictability have become built-in aspects of the system
"Hate to have to point this out to you Jim but to-date there have been NO negotiations related to the UK leaving the EU."
Who asid there was - that has been the farce of Britain's leaving - no preparation, no proper discussion, no plans - just a flag-wagging display of "little Britainism" which is likely to turn into "Little Englandism" if Scotland and Northern Ireland leave The Union, which Brexit has now opened the door to.
Now, how about dropping the pompous belligerence and addressing some real facts - your strutting used to be amusing, now it is somewhat pathetic gesturing
Please don't my my joke about a "pecking order" a reality - discussion groups don't need such things.
Jim Carroll