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Thread #161422 Message #3836008
Posted By: Jim Carroll
31-Jan-17 - 07:15 PM
Thread Name: BS: Petition to not allow trump into the UK
Subject: RE: BS: Petition to not allow trump into the UK
"Rod Liddle is the editor of the Spectator. One of the UK's foremost political publications."
Who - you mean this Rod Liddell?
His comments have repeatedly caused controversy, and his acrimonious divorce in 2004 from Rachel Royce received much attention from the media. He was accused of racism for making remarks about the African-Caribbean community and for the content of his posts to an online forum. A November 2011 article by Liddle in The Spectator about the trial of two men involved in the murder of Stephen Lawrence led to the magazine being prosecuted for breaching reporting restrictions. A court hearing was held in June 2012, in which The Spectator pleaded guilty to contempt of court and accepted a fine of £5,000 plus costs.[5][6]
Or this one?
Liddle's Immigration Is A Time Bomb was broadcast by Channel 4 in 2005. The complaints that followed it included that he should not have allowed British National Party leader Nick Griffin to speak unchallenged. Ofcom adjudicated that the programme was fair, and the complaints were dismissed. Liddle subsequently argued, after Griffin was acquitted in February 2006 of two charges of inciting racial hatred, that the charges were "too ephemeral, too dependent upon the mindset and political disposition of the juror, and upon what is happening outside of the courtroom, on the streets."[24]
Or this one ?
Alleged misogyny and racism[edit]
In August 2009, in his Spectator blog he wrote about Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour Party, in unflattering terms. Liddle began the article by asking: "So — Harriet Harman, then. Would you? I mean after a few beers obviously, not while you were sober."[26] Tanya Gold asserted in The Guardian that Liddle had delivered a "tissue-thin polemic." Pointing out that it was The Spectator's cover story that week, Gold wondered if, after 100 years of striving to improve women's rights, whether "we're back in the schoolyard – or is it the brothel?"[27] Rachel Cooke in The Observer nearly two months later recalled finding Liddle's piece "so disgusting I flushed violently all the way from my breastbone to my forehead when I first read it. I looked like I had German measles."[28]
Liddle asserted two months later that the Harman column "was supposed to be a parody of guttural, base sexism", a joke he assumed readers would understand. After the negative response from Gold (and then Cooke, among other female journalists) he continued: "And then I suppose I came to the conclusion – gradually – that I must have got it wrong."[29] In June 2014, he said that of those he had offended, Harman was the one person to whom he would apologise.[30]
In November 2009, again for The Spectator website, he offered "a quick update on what the Muslim savages are up to," a brief article about the stoning to death of a 20-year-old woman in Somalia after she was accused of adultery, and the similar death of a 13-year-old the year before. He made remarks, considered sarcastic, that read: "Incidentally, many Somalis have come to Britain as immigrants recently, where they are widely admired for their strong work ethic, respect for the law and keen, piercing, intelligence."[31][32]
In December 2009, on his Spectator blog, Liddle referred to two black music producers, Brandon Jolie and Kingsley Ogundele, who had plotted to kill Jolie's 15-year-old pregnant girlfriend, as "human filth" and said the incident was not an anomaly. He continued:
The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. Of course, in return, we have rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks.[33]
When he was accused of racism, Liddle said he was instead engaging in a debate about multiculturalism.[34][35] In March 2010 the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) upheld a complaint against Liddle, who became the first journalist to be censured over the contents of a blog, because he had not been able to prove his claim about the crime statistics.[36] After the publication of London crime figures in June 2010, The Sunday Telegraph suggested Liddle was largely right on some of his claims, but that he was probably wrong on his claims about knife crimes and violent sex crimes.[37]
Independent editor rumour and Millwall supporters website[edit]
The Guardian reported on 8 January 2010 that the expected purchase of The Independent by Alexander Lebedev, a Russian billionaire, would be followed by the appointment of Liddle as editor.[38] Roy Greenslade wrote on 11 January that the reports were provoking a "major internal and external revolt" by The Independent's staff and readers.[39] The stories about Liddle's posts on Millwall Online apparently further reduced the likelihood of his being offered the job.[40] Finally, on 19 February, Stephen Brook of The Guardian reported that Liddle was no longer in the running for the post.[41] Tim Luckhurst, Professor of Journalism at the University of Kent, argued that Liddle's chance of editing The Independent was removed "by the people behind a viciously intolerant campaign of liberal bigotry".[42]
In January 2010, The Mail on Sunday and The Observer drew attention to allegedly racist and misogynist comments posted under the username "monkeymfc"—a name Liddle has used—on Millwall Online, a fan club web forum with no official connection to Millwall Football Club. Liddle at first attributed some of the comments to opposition fans logging in under his name to embarrass him. He later admitted he had written some of the posts that were being criticised, including one in support of the BNP excluding Black and Asian people from the party.[43] Another post, in which he joked about not being able to smoke at Auschwitz,[44] led to his being asked to explain what he meant in The Jewish Chronicle.[40] While he said in June 2014 that his comments were taken out of context, he does not regret making them. "No. Never. Absolutely not. I thought about my mates at Millwall Online, God I respect them so much more than these other people, these ghastly fucking people."[30]
Stephen Lawrence, Lee Rigby, disabled and transgender people[edit]
In November 2011, an article by Liddle for The Spectator suggested the trial of two men accused (and later convicted) of murdering Stephen Lawrence would not be fair.[45] It was referred to the Attorney General (Dominic Grieve) by the judge for possible contempt of court,[46] and he ordered the jurors not to read it. Having decided that it may have breached a court order, Grieve passed the case on to the Crown Prosecution Service and the Director of Public Prosecutions.[47] The decision that The Spectator was to be prosecuted by the CPS for breaching reporting restrictions was announced on 9 May 2012, with a court hearing scheduled for 7 June, although Liddle as the author was not himself liable for prosecution.[5] Fraser Nelson, the magazine's editor, announced that the prosecution would not be contested,[48] and the magazine pleaded guilty at the hearing. The magazine's fine was £3,000, plus £2,000 compensation to Stephen Lawrence's parents and £625 costs.[49]
In January 2012, Liddle claimed that many people in the UK were "pretending to be disabled" in his column for The Sun,[50] an opinion defended by James Delingpole who thought "Rod's point is well made".[51] Frances Ryan in The Guardian accused him of "belittling something that on a daily basis affects real people" who can be "a huge benefit to society. Maybe for a month Liddle would like to try that."[52]
On 23 May 2013, Liddle wrote about the murder of soldier Lee Rigby near the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, London. In the original version of a blog article for The Spectator, he referred to the perpetrators as "two black savages".[53] After many objections to his language use,[54] this phrase was modified.[55] Liddle apologised.[53][56]
In May 2015, the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) upheld a complaint from Trans Media Watch that Liddle had been discriminatory towards Emily Brothers, a blind and transgender Labour candidate at the 2015 general election, in two Sun columns published in December 2014 and January 2015. In commenting in the way he had Liddle had breached two sections of the editors' code.[57][58]
"Or this one
"So, Crispin Blunt MP feels hurt because laws proscribing amyl nitrate [sic] (or 'poppers') would criminalise the entire gay community. ... I would have thought that the requirement for amyl nitrate to relax the sphincter muscle and lube to accommodate entry was God's way of telling you that what you're about to do is unnatural and perverse. Or your body's way of telling you – your call. So eeeeuw. ... Crispin and others can always use a jemmy [crowbar] instead.[64]"
Surely you mean Rod Liddell, the extremist right wing Homophobic, misogynistic, racist journalist who doesn't think twice (if at all) about insulting non-whites, homosexuals and women
Must sign up to anything he has to say!!!
But I can see why you respect him - a father-figure, no doubt
"You can tell a man who boozes, by the company he chooses",
And the bleedin' pig got up and walked away"
As the song goes
"I will discuss things that have actually happened, I will discuss things on what the principles involved have actually said."
No you won't - you will only discuss the alternative truth that this shit-pot generates
You have no more cojones than your spineless mates - though, in your case, it's understandable considering your spectacular foot-in-mouths
Jim Carroll