"Only thing is Teribus that none of us ostrichocracy brigade can ever say a damn thing that you won't find a way of contradicting" - Steve Shaw

That Shaw is the essence of discussion/debate (Delete as you see fit)

If you cannot present and then support the points you wish to make then don't bother making them - simple. No need for insults, baseless accusations and smears followed by massive deflections into totally unconnected subjects because you haven't the wit or intelligence to argue your corner.