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Thread #161452   Message #3845007
Posted By: Jim Carroll
15-Mar-17 - 06:03 AM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
"The point Keith has been making for months, is that there is a "culture" of Anti Semitism in the left of the UK labour Party."
He has failed miserably to make that point
The only evidence we have is that pro Israeli group received their instructions from Israel that they should smear the Labour Party with accusations of Anti-Semitism following Corbyn's statement that, under his leadership, they would back BDS- the date of that first meeting precedes the attacks by a few weeks.
Corbyn won overwhelming support of the rank and file of the Labour Party, so the New Labour crowd decided to jump on the Anti-Semitism bandwagon n order to rid the party of a leader thy considered a liability.
The makeup of the most vociferous of those attacks indicates this s the case, and the fact that no evidence has emerged other than unqualified accusations by one or other of the above groups.
You do not try people for murder without specif#ying who they killed, and what form the murder took - and then you go on to provide your evidence.
You don't try people for theft without specifying what they stole and how they stole it.
You do not accuse a party of "serious Antisemitism" without describing what form it takes and how many are involved - you certainly don't accuse a party with a track record of opposing bigotry and racism (even you, with your pathetic claims of being a "socialist" knows that)
All this is not just natural justice - it's common sense - making accusations without backing them up with facts is witch-hunting, pure and simple.
Despite this, Keith has persisted in his sickening campaign, refused to acknowledge the simple commonsense that YOU CANNOT FIND ANYBODY GUILTY OF ANYTHING ON THE BASIS OF ACCUSATIONS ALONE - YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN DETAIL - NO DETAILS HAVE BEEN FORTHCOMING - END OF STORY
So desperate was Keith to smear the Labour Party he let slip his own antisemitism by inventing a 'Jewish Plot', whereby all the Jewish Members of parliament decided to cover up the nature of Labour's Antisemitism in the interests of their party - how desperate can you get?
He has led throughout - he invented his invisible army yet still refuses to quote them - and he never will
No public figure would ever make such a horrendous statement publicly without not only losing their job, but also be prosecuted for inciting race hatred.
To suggest that an entire religious/racial community is culturally inclined to have underage sex is racist filth - that is what Keith has indulged in here
In the middle of his attempts to smear the Muslim people by quoting a thousand year old marriage - and clams he only did so before somebody else did - pathetic!!
Keith continues to insist that he quoted the people he claimed backed his "implant" theory – yet he continues to refuse to quote them
He now says that the Jewish members of parliament did describe the anti-Semitism that was taking place after having said that they had told Corbyn and left it in his hands, and made no statements publicly "for love of the party" – his inconsistencies have now gone ballistic
I brought this up again when he called me a liar and challenged me to produce evidence of his extremism – he has dug himself an deep hole which he would be well advised to climb out of and walk away from.
I have no wish to continue with this, but I will not be called a liar, nor will I let racism pass without challenging it – it does too much damage to people's lives and it destroys our society.
This is a decent forum which gives us the opportunity to express and share our ideas – I would certainly not with to be part of it if I were either a Muslim or a homosexual – the few extremists we have, have made certain of that.
Jim Carroll
"The point Keith has been making for months, is that there is a "culture" of Anti Semitism in the left of the UK labour Party."
He has failed miserably to make that point
The only evidence we have is that pro Israeli group received their instructions from Israel that they should smear the Labour Party with accusations of Anti-Semitism following Corbyn's statement that, under his leadership, they would back BDS- the date of that first meeting precedes the attacks by a few weeks.
Corbyn won overwhelming support of the rank and file of the Labour Party, so the New Labour crowd decided to jump on the Anti-Semitism bandwagon n order to rid the party of a leader thy considered a liability.
The makeup of the most vociferous of those attacks indicates this s the case, and the fact that no evidence has emerged other than unqualified accusations by one or other of the above groups.
You do not try people for murder without specif#ying who they killed, and what form the murder took - and then you go on to provide your evidence.
You don't try people for theft without specifying what they stole and how they stole it.
You do not accuse a party of "serious Antisemitism" without describing what form it takes and how many are involved - you certainly don't accuse a party with a track record of opposing bigotry and racism (even you, with your pathetic claims of being a "socialist" knows that)
All this is not just natural justice - it's common sense - making accusations without backing them up with facts is witch-hunting, pure and simple.
Despite this, Keith has persisted in his sickening campaign, refused to acknowledge the simple commonsense that YOU CANNOT FIND ANYBODY GUILTY OF ANYTHING ON THE BASIS OF ACCUSATIONS ALONE - YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN DETAIL - NO DETAILS HAVE BEEN FORTHCOMING - END OF STORY
So desperate was Keith to smear the Labour Party he let slip his own antisemitism by inventing a 'Jewish Plot', whereby all the Jewish Members of parliament decided to cover up the nature of Labour's Antisemitism in the interests of their party - how desperate can you get?
He has led throughout - he invented his invisible army yet still refuses to quote them - and he never will
No public figure would ever make such a horrendous statement publicly without not only losing their job, but also be prosecuted for inciting race hatred.
To suggest that an entire religious/racial community is culturally inclined to have underage sex is racist filth - that is what Keith has indulged in here
In the middle of his attempts to smear the Muslim people by quoting a thousand year old marriage - and clams he only did so before somebody else did - pathetic!!
Keith continues to insist that he quoted the people he claimed backed his "implant" theory – yet he continues to refuse to quote them
He now says that the Jewish members of parliament did describe the anti-Semitism that was taking place after having said that they had told Corbyn and left it in his hands, and made no statements publicly "for love of the party" – his inconsistencies have now gone ballistic
I brought this up again when he called me a liar and challenged me to produce evidence of his extremism – he has dug himself an deep hole which he would be well advised to climb out of and walk away from.
I have no wish to continue with this, but I will not be called a liar, nor will I let racism pass without challenging it – it does too much damage to people's lives and it destroys our society.
This is a decent forum which gives us the opportunity to express and share our ideas – I would certainly not with to be part of it if I were either a Muslim or a homosexual – the few extremists we have, have made certain of that.
Jim Carroll
"The point Keith has been making for months, is that there is a "culture" of Anti Semitism in the left of the UK labour Party."
He has failed miserably to make that point
The only evidence we have is that pro Israeli group received their instructions from Israel that they should smear the Labour Party with accusations of Anti-Semitism following Corbyn's statement that, under his leadership, they would back BDS- the date of that first meeting precedes the attacks by a few weeks.
Corbyn won overwhelming support of the rank and file of the Labour Party, so the New Labour crowd decided to jump on the Anti-Semitism bandwagon n order to rid the party of a leader thy considered a liability.
The makeup of the most vociferous of those attacks indicates this s the case, and the fact that no evidence has emerged other than unqualified accusations by one or other of the above groups.
You do not try people for murder without specif#ying who they killed, and what form the murder took - and then you go on to provide your evidence.
You don't try people for theft without specifying what they stole and how they stole it.
You do not accuse a party of "serious Antisemitism" without describing what form it takes and how many are involved - you certainly don't accuse a party with a track record of opposing bigotry and racism (even you, with your pathetic claims of being a "socialist" knows that)
All this is not just natural justice - it's common sense - making accusations without backing them up with facts is witch-hunting, pure and simple.
Despite this, Keith has persisted in his sickening campaign, refused to acknowledge the simple commonsense that YOU CANNOT FIND ANYBODY GUILTY OF ANYTHING ON THE BASIS OF ACCUSATIONS ALONE - YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN DETAIL - NO DETAILS HAVE BEEN FORTHCOMING - END OF STORY
So desperate was Keith to smear the Labour Party he let slip his own antisemitism by inventing a 'Jewish Plot', whereby all the Jewish Members of parliament decided to cover up the nature of Labour's Antisemitism in the interests of their party - how desperate can you get?
He has led throughout - he invented his invisible army yet still refuses to quote them - and he never will
No public figure would ever make such a horrendous statement publicly without not only losing their job, but also be prosecuted for inciting race hatred.
To suggest that an entire religious/racial community is culturally inclined to have underage sex is racist filth - that is what Keith has indulged in here
In the middle of his attempts to smear the Muslim people by quoting a thousand year old marriage - and clams he only did so before somebody else did - pathetic!!
Keith continues to insist that he quoted the people he claimed backed his "implant" theory – yet he continues to refuse to quote them
He now says that the Jewish members of parliament did describe the anti-Semitism that was taking place after having said that they had told Corbyn and left it in his hands, and made no statements publicly "for love of the party" – his inconsistencies have now gone ballistic
I brought this up again when he called me a liar and challenged me to produce evidence of his extremism – he has dug himself an deep hole which he would be well advised to climb out of and walk away from.
I have no wish to continue with this, but I will not be called a liar, nor will I let racism pass without challenging it – it does too much damage to people's lives and it destroys our society.
This is a decent forum which gives us the opportunity to express and share our ideas – I would certainly not with to be part of it if I were either a Muslim or a homosexual – the few extremists we have, have made certain of that.
Jim Carroll
"The point Keith has been making for months, is that there is a "culture" of Anti Semitism in the left of the UK labour Party."
He has failed miserably to make that point
The only evidence we have is that pro Israeli group received their instructions from Israel that they should smear the Labour Party with accusations of Anti-Semitism following Corbyn's statement that, under his leadership, they would back BDS- the date of that first meeting precedes the attacks by a few weeks.
Corbyn won overwhelming support of the rank and file of the Labour Party, so the New Labour crowd decided to jump on the Anti-Semitism bandwagon n order to rid the party of a leader thy considered a liability.
The makeup of the most vociferous of those attacks indicates this s the case, and the fact that no evidence has emerged other than unqualified accusations by one or other of the above groups.
You do not try people for murder without specif#ying who they killed, and what form the murder took - and then you go on to provide your evidence.
You don't try people for theft without specifying what they stole and how they stole it.
You do not accuse a party of "serious Antisemitism" without describing what form it takes and how many are involved - you certainly don't accuse a party with a track record of opposing bigotry and racism (even you, with your pathetic claims of being a "socialist" knows that)
All this is not just natural justice - it's common sense - making accusations without backing them up with facts is witch-hunting, pure and simple.
Despite this, Keith has persisted in his sickening campaign, refused to acknowledge the simple commonsense that YOU CANNOT FIND ANYBODY GUILTY OF ANYTHING ON THE BASIS OF ACCUSATIONS ALONE - YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN DETAIL - NO DETAILS HAVE BEEN FORTHCOMING - END OF STORY
So desperate was Keith to smear the Labour Party he let slip his own antisemitism by inventing a 'Jewish Plot', whereby all the Jewish Members of parliament decided to cover up the nature of Labour's Antisemitism in the interests of their party - how desperate can you get?
He has led throughout - he invented his invisible army yet still refuses to quote them - and he never will
No public figure would ever make such a horrendous statement publicly without not only losing their job, but also be prosecuted for inciting race hatred.
To suggest that an entire religious/racial community is culturally inclined to have underage sex is racist filth - that is what Keith has indulged in here
In the middle of his attempts to smear the Muslim people by quoting a thousand year old marriage - and clams he only did so before somebody else did - pathetic!!
Keith continues to insist that he quoted the people he claimed backed his "implant" theory – yet he continues to refuse to quote them
He now says that the Jewish members of parliament did describe the anti-Semitism that was taking place after having said that they had told Corbyn and left it in his hands, and made no statements publicly "for love of the party" – his inconsistencies have now gone ballistic
I brought this up again when he called me a liar and challenged me to produce evidence of his extremism – he has dug himself an deep hole which he would be well advised to climb out of and walk away from.
I have no wish to continue with this, but I will not be called a liar, nor will I let racism pass without challenging it – it does too much damage to people's lives and it destroys our society.
This is a decent forum which gives us the opportunity to express and share our ideas – I would certainly not with to be part of it if I were either a Muslim or a homosexual – the few extremists we have, have made certain of that.
Jim Carroll