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Thread #161452   Message #3845701
Posted By: Dave the Gnome
19-Mar-17 - 03:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Steve - :-D

Jim - Exactly what I was expecting, and a good answer. Thanks. Your point about imperialism is quite right. However, I am half Polish, class myself as British and I do not think I am particularly racist. Yet I was brought up in suburban Manchester in the 1950s when racism was endemic. Life is not black and white, if you will excuse the expression given the topic! Anyway, my point about not stereotyping a nation as racists, when there are demonstrable exceptions, is also right. So we are both right in different ways.

This is what I have trouble getting across to people like Keith and, although in the past I have put this down to myself, I now know it is not all me. I think, even if we disagree on this point, we are on a much more similar wavelength and can agree to disagree. Something that can never be achieved in certain quarters.

I don't want to get too bogged down in this so I will just make the point that any discussion is as much about attitude and how you treat other people as it is about facts and evidence.

BTW, I do not think the rise in racism is a predominately British thing. The far right seem to be gaining ground all over the world.

Keith - Yes, you were right and I hope after all I said above that you will realise that Jim was also right. But I guess that, sadly, you will try to spin that to your own agenda as well.