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Thread #161452   Message #3845799
Posted By: Steve Shaw
20-Mar-17 - 07:54 AM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Judge, jury and executioner now, eh? Let's hope for your sake that Ken's lawyers aren't reading this thread! And let me try to make things clear for the second cloth-ears of the day. The hate crime statistics as presented by bobad (the numbers, not the percentages) are indeed oddly very low. I have expressed, several times, scepticism about these tiny numbers. However, I can only go from the numbers so helpfully provided. As I've said several times, all hate crime is abhorrent and in no way have I trivialised the nature of the crimes, though I have asked about their nature and received no response to that. There is no equivalence between the numbers provided by bobad and the numbers of people affected by rape and sexual assault, an equivalence of the numbers made by Keith (he said they were both tiny proportions) before he'd checked his facts. That is my point, definitely not to trivialise hate crime directed against Jewish people. One such crime is one too many. But the numbers provided so far in this thread suggest that our countries are safe places for Jews to live in. You are many, many times more likely to be a victim of sexual assault than you are to be a victim of an anti-Jewish hate crime. If a point is being made that the hate crime issue is so terrible that Jewish people are being driven out of Europe in droves, one suggestion made here, then I think I it's perfectly valid to look at the numbers and put them in the context of other kinds of violent crime. That is what I've done, and only that.