Fion, my point was that the grouping of people is unfair not that anything had been done in the name of fat Americans. If however, you did check back and read the thread I was reffering to which caused so much anger, I think you will find that there was an inference that fat Americans as a group were in some way responsible for world starvation.

I do believe he is up there and as GaryT said,is "Jesus as Son of God and Savior. " but no, I do not belive he is stupid enough to be deceived by flattery and, I do not believe in the lighting of candles except as a symbolic representation of the Light Of Christ.

Jon