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Thread #161737   Message #3846785
Posted By: Jim Carroll
26-Mar-17 - 01:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: Martin McGuinness (1950-2017) (Sinn Fein)
Subject: RE: BS: Martin McGuinness (1950-2017) (Sinn Fein)
A very partisan view of Irish history Teribus
The 'Men of the Gun' were the Loyalists (not the Irish people, Catholic or Protestant) who introduced the gun into twentieth century Irish politics.
The same Loyalists also struck the first terrorist blow in the 1960s.
The Civil Rights movement that was brutally battered into silence by the Loyalists with the assistance of the R.U.C. had nothing whatever to do with "maintaining their ties with the UK" - it was a peaceful demand for equal rights and opportunities fro the Catholic third of the population of the Six Counties.
You might as well have added to your diatribe "This has been a broadcast on behalf of the Loyalists of Post-Empire Britain
It bears no reality to to the situation that gave rise to the Troubles.
I suggest you read a book rather than official British bulletins.
Jim Carroll

THE CREATION AND CONSOLIDATION OF THE IRISH BORDER
KJ Rankin
"Plans to include all of Ulster's nine counties in the new "Northern Ireland" with a view to facilitating future unity was effectively vetoed by Ulster unionists who were keen to procure a secure 2:1 majority in six counties than handle a slender and precarious 9:7 balance. However, with the Act being virtually ignored in the rest of Ireland, the boundary was not quite secured. The 1921 Anglo-Irish Treaty endowed the Border with a temporary and qualified recognition but established a disparity between
a devolved government within the United Kingdom and the newly autonomous
Dominion of the Irish Free State.
The provision for the Boundary Commission had been agreed by the Irish negotiators upon the logic that reducing Northern Ireland's territory would hasten its disintegration and subsequent prospects for unity. This was grossly simplistic and arguably counter-productive in that reducing Northern Ireland's would inevitably create a stronger unionist majority and fallacious to equate territorial with economic viability.
The initial tactical advantage offered by the Boundary Commission was converted into a potentially devastating political liability.
The Boundary Commission saga confirmed the territorial framework of Northern Ireland as it exists today and with it transferred attention to constitutional rather than territorial structures. The Irish Border can understandably be regarded as symbolising the conflict between unionism and nationalism, but it is also an archetypal example of the interplay between politics and geography whereby abstract political concepts are applied in different spatial scales.
https://www.qub.ac.uk/research-centres/CentreforInternationalBordersResearch/Publications/WorkingPapers/MappingFrontiersworkingpapers/Filetoupload,175395,en.pdf