"More witnesses that lied."
Shite Keith
The only one lying here is you
You are not even telling the truth when you say you are putting Israel's case - you are not
You are making it up as you go along.
Even the Israelis are not claiming what you are saying - you don't reference to anything - you are making excuses as you need to
You drag in Jenin as a smokescreen - every combatant who has ever fought a war exaggerates the figures - Israel invariable comes up with the lowest civilian casualty figures - that is fully accepted propaganda
Every writer puts the dead of Sabra Shatila at well over a thousand - an eye witness on site did a rough count came up with 3,500 "probably more, as the number that had been shipped out or buried by the Israelis and Falangists was unknown."
Eyewitness Jewish nurse, who was there and who has since that time researched the massacre in detail and spoken to the survivors, accepts the possibility of 3,500
This is her description of the massacre
One of Israel's most infamous crimes occurred 33 years ago this week.
In September 1982, the Israeli army surrounded the Sabra neighborhood and adjacent Shatila refugee camp in southern Beirut.Israel gave its allies in a right-wing Christian militia known as the Phalange free rein to massacre a large number of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians living in the area. Israeli troops even shot flares into the night sky to help the Phalangists find their targets.
Is she lying - why should a Jewish Nurse who was devoted to The State of Israel lie - why shold she spend the rest of her life dedicated to exposing Israel's murderous role in the massacre?
Remind me again how many were exaggerated at Jenin??
Israeli lying figures puts them by far ahead in the lying stakes
You accuse eye-witnesses, on the spot immediately after after the massacre om making up seeing bodies being buried in the stadium - you offer no proof - you knee-jerk denials
You are given a statement that Israeli officers colluded with the Falangists - you dismiss it an an anonymous blog
You are given the same information written by a Jewish writer in The New your Times - you pull up some shite about snipers that is not under discussion and ignore the N.Y. Times article
You are full of wind and pee Keith.
Not only are you the most extreme racist on this site - Muslims, Irish, Travellers.... but you are now a serial liar who lies publicly.
Is the New York Times writer lying when he describes the massacre and the collusion - if so why?
Perhaps he is one of your "self loathing Jews"
If you have any proof that the eye-wtnesses or thase who researched the massacres were lying - present the proof and stop making things up or avoiding the facts
You have made up lies about this massacre from day one
Like with the Muslim implants, your anti-Irish racism and now your obscene assault on the Traveller community - this will what you are judged as being for as long as you contribute to this forum - a racist, an atrocity denier and a liar
Jim Carroll