It's not a debate at all, Dave. It's Keith mustering a massive list of other people who have said what he thinks too. At least what we think he thinks. He never actually tells us. And he's changed tactics now. It's not bold any more, it's exclamation marks. Finally, Keith, no-one ever proves anything about anyone here (except in rare cases, such as your misrepresenting Geoffrey Wheatcroft).

Oops! There I go again! Pat-a-cake time! Where's Teribus when you absolutely don't really need him!