The sky does not HAVE to fall all at once to be a threat! Houses get dry-rot & termites which eat slowly, but surely...pollutants are not dumped into the rivers & oceans all at once.....all the trees are not cut down in one year....kids bands did not switch to mean, degrading, self-destructive lyrics overnight.....ghettos and slums were once new, well-maintained, happy neighborhoods......the highways did not become crowded, slow and full of rage instantly.......

Those who do the math and SEE the statistics and measure the pollutants and the ozone and the topsoil and the trees and the fish and the sheer, growing MASSES of humans have been telling us for many years that there are a few problems...for 20-30 years now, they have been increasing the tone of the warnings........but.....like a frog in a pot of slowly heated water, we refuse to jump!

And those who aspire to **POWER** simply hate to give us bad news , or even admit that it IS bad, else it might interfere with their short-term objectives....

So many people are unable to discriminate between uncomfortable symptoms, and real, basic problems, and the ones who can seldom run for office, or have any hopes of being elected.

This planet will not support 85 trillion people doing what they are now...you know that....but you are unwilling to focus on where BELOW that obviously silly number that real safety and sustainable comfort would lie. ......and I don't have the 'credentials' to convince you on MY say-so, 'cause I'm just an old autoharp player and woodworker.

But, if you are young enough, and are around 40-50 years from now, perhaps you will remember reading this post and say.."yeah, there was an old curmudgeon years ago that said something about these problems on a forum I usta read..."

and, if over the next 40-50 years, many of the problems are alleviated and/or solved, you WILL be very aware of the sacrifices it took to do it!...Sometimes a LOT of a house has to be torn down and rebuilt to get the dry rot and termites out.......

.....sorry...the tone of the "guest' question and some of the answers just pushed my buttons