This we got from Jom - who by the way loves to be enraged:

"1: if I was paying you to clean for me your work would be inspected " - Teribus

"Now decent employer "inspects" work in teh manner you suggest - if it is not done properly, the employee is not asked back" - Jom

I take it that under this scheme of things Jom that this decent employer you mentioned would still be expected to pay the "cleaner" who did not "clean"?

To demand, or to accept pay for work that has not been properly done is dishonest Jom - or doesn't that concept apply in your world?

As to "cleaners" driving about in Jags - I know of one who on leaving the Navy wrote a list of all the jobs he had been asked to do in the Navy - none seemed to have any use in "civilian life" and at the bottom of his list was the entry "Cleaning Heads and Bathrooms" - he started his own business first cleaning the toilets of his local (Pub)- that led to doing the same thing in others, he set up his own company and branched out into cleaning clubs and offices - ended up selling his company 15 years later for about £3 million - large Oaks from small acorns grow - amazing what hard work and application can do - eh Jom?