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Thread #161452   Message #3853892
Posted By: Teribus
08-May-17 - 09:17 AM
Thread Name: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
Subject: RE: BS: Uk Labour Party discussion II
1: You accused all Muslims of being prone to underage sex becaue of their culture

That is deeply racist


Tell me Jim what is "Muslim Culture"? Now in my travels I have lived and worked with Muslims of different sects and from different countries from West Africa to Indonesia. But we will level out the religious bit and settle on those Muslims who are Sunni, I think that you would find a Sunni Muslim from the Arabian Peninsula has a very different culture to a Sunni Muslim from either Malaysia or Indonesia. But this has been pointed out to you time and time again so no need to expect you to take any heed of it this time either.

2: You accused the Traveller community of being overrepresented as "slaveers" on the basis of the actions of about five criminals

That is deeply racist


In one instance the family involved is a dynasty who control many sites the length and breadth of England (One of the reasons they got away with it for nearly a quarter of a century) - the five you mention were the ones who could be charged, tried, convicted and imprisoned on the evidence produced. Cannot think of any others who have illegally kept dozens of vulnerable people in appalling conditions to be worked to the point of exhaustion without payment - no wonder the members of this family are millionaires eh Jim?


3: You accused Irish shcool children of being brainwashed to hate Britain even though you ahev never been able to give examples of that hatred.

That is deeply racist


Where do you think this came from Jim:

The words are Dominic Behan's

My name is O'Hanlon, and I've just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, and where I was weaned
I learned all my life cruel England's to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.


The Irish historian Ruth Dudley Edwards said exactly the same of her education in the republic as did many of the surviving "volunteers" interviewed in that documentary about the IRA's 1956 - 1962 "Border Campaign" that you rather pointedly refused to watch.

I take it that they are all wrong and just accept in the midst of one enormous brain fart that Jim knows best? Don't count on it, on this and many more things I believe and know you are wrong.

4: You claim that tere isa massive problem with antisemitism in the labour Party, but are unable to explain why the Jews in the Party haven't gone public
Your first explanation was that they love their Party - you now deny havving said that, but it doesn't make any difference
If there was massive antisemitism, the Jewish members would have made that public - any race or culture would -- they haven't so it doesn't exist


Any problem within the Labour Party picked up by members of that Party would in the first instance always be reported by them to the Labour Party's National Executive Committee for them to sort out - initially with regard to charges of anti-Semitism within the Labour Party that is precisely what was done. The OULC affair raised the stakes as the University and the House of Commons were threatening Inquiries of their own. After Baroness Royall's and Baroness Chakrabarti's Inquiries finished only then did those complaining about various things within the Labour Party go public with their concerns - Labour's NEC have not been so forthcoming and in accordance with Chakrabarti's "whitewash" it is highly unlikely that they ever will.