Regarding "open debate" no one on this forum can engage with you in debate while you continue to repeat abuse like Racist, Fascist, Homophobe. these words were designed specifically to stop and silence debate......they are a disgusting example of "liberal" double standards.
You mention "hatred", well nobody hates like a "liberal" scorned...or defeated in debate.
I offer this sector of Mudcat as incontrovertible evidence.