The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #162126   Message #3858248
Posted By: Jim Carroll
01-Jun-17 - 03:52 AM
Thread Name: Manchester Explosion May 22, 2017
Subject: RE: Manchester Explosion May 22, 2017
"ultimately though, their countries have to fight and evolve their way out of the shit themselves."
A little simplistic Al
The twisted reasoning of those who plant the bombs is based on the fact that we are supplying the weapons and support from their oppressors.
If we stand by and allow our governments to do that, it's inevitable that they will recognise us part of what they have to overcome - not fair, but understandable.
When the China/Russia veto prevented the UN from acting against Assad, Britain held a vote to decide whether to become involved - we washed our hands of the responsibility of stopping the atrocities of our not-so-former friend and the LEGALITY of our involvement is quesionable.
At the height of his terror, Assad's officers and government officials were deserting and begging Britain to take simple measures against this state terrorist - economic and diplomatic pressure, the seizure of his London property - nothing was done and his gofer continued to move in and out of London with impunity
Now we are fighting Isis as Assad's ally - tell Assad's victims that his atrocities are "nuffin' to do with us guv"
Throughout the Irish 'Troubles' our interest in music brought us annually to this part of Western Ireland - we arrived in this town at the height of the period when the Hunger Strikers were dying unnecessarily, expecting to see some resentment - we saw none, but it would have been understandable if there had been any.
If we are going to ignore the fact that Britain is as wealthy as it is because of our centuries of exploitation of these countries which we helped to keep poor and subservient to the Empire, then at least we need to take responsibility for the actions of a Government which opened a massive arms fair aimed at selling weapons to Middle Eastern despots at the time the Arab Spring protests were just beginning.
Like it or not, it is a fact that that the wealthy Western Countries are part of the oppression - we helped keep the Assad family in its place despite the torture and mass murder - we prop up the Saudi regime because we want their oil - we fill our shops with goods made by virtual Third World slaves
In the past, we helped prop us the Apartheid regime in South Africa and welcomed dignitaries from Greece while the Generals were torturing, raping and murdering the Greek people - the Pinochet/Thatcher love-affair which helped prevent a mass-murderer from standing trial was probably the lowest point of our co-operation with fascism.
It's a wonder we don't have more enemies than we do.
We need to take responsibilities fro the actions of our politicians otherwise 'the sins of the fathers are bound to be visited on the children'
We really can't continue washing our hands of those responsibilities.
Jim Carroll