"Re Deutscher, you asked for stuff about the famine, and I gave you a quote."
If you think that the quote you gave sums up what Deuscher said about the famine , I should scramble through the index again ans see exactly what he wrote
Deuscher examined the whole question of the Ukrain in context of Stalin's life - he didn't isolate the Ukraine, it was part of the e
ntire picture
For Zhrist's sake, make an effoert and read the ***** thing through.
Your cut-'n-paste approach to history has got you into enough trouble
There is around a third of a clumn of reference to the Ukrain in Deuscher's biograpy which is spread over at least twenty pages - and that is the tip of the iceberg - the subject of the famine spread much further than that.
THere were no new revelations - the archives on Stalinism were opened when Khrushchev denounced Stalin and Conquest (CMG, OBE, FBA, FAAAS, FRSL, FBISE), a member of the British establishment, based his work on previous ones, bringing his own Cold War agenda to it.
That might make for good propaganda, but it certainly doesn't make for good history
Having read several of his books, including The Great Terror', I have no arguments with most of his facts, just the conclusion he draws from them, but not having read them, how would you know that.
Game over Keith - I'm not falling into another of your black holes and fucking up another thread with your agenda-based ignorance - go read these books in full - all of them, if you want to discuss them.
I ask again, what is the basic point on which Deuscher and Conquest differs - it leaps out of the pages if you care to read thaem
Jim Carroll