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Thread #162232   Message #3863920
Posted By: Teribus
02-Jul-17 - 03:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: Time to choose on June 8th-UK Elections
Subject: RE: BS: Time to choose on June 8th-UK Elections
Let's reuse the new format:

Dave the Gnome - 02 Jul 17 - 01:35 PM

"had war broken out in 1938...

I am sure somebody in the American State Department had read Hitler's book

America could have made a fortune..."

Note: The above are all cherry-picked by Gnome and placed above out of context.

All documented facts eh, Teribus? Well, how about this.

War broke out in 1938.

The UK sends all its top scientists and leaders to a safe haven.
[The planned location was Canada]

Europe, including the UK are overrun.
[Tell me Gnome why would Hitler want to "overrun the whole of Europe?? - That was never part of his plan]

In 1940 the top scientists come up with a weapon so devastating that it can destroy the world
[You are fantasizing now Gnome - two years from scratch to instantly get "a weapon so devastating that it can destroy the world" - grow up the atom bomb took the resources of the USA, at this time in your scenario a neutral country remember, six years to build]

The top leaders
[What top leaders?] negotiate with all the world powers, [Under what auspices? what forum, The League of Nations has been shredded] including the third Reich and convince them that unless the war ends the device will be used. [AH GOT IT - War of the Worlds scenario - yet another fantasy. Third Reich knows that while you may have a weapon you have no way of delivering it - their top scientists have told them that]

The war stops after 2 years instead of going on for the 6 it did.
[How does the war stop? Does Germany keep the territory it has acquired? Does it retreat to its 1938 borders and ensure that this terrible new weapon can be delivered? Are really so naïve Gnome? - Germany in the late 1930s couldn't care less about Europe - Soviet Russia was the enemy Nazi Germany knew IT HAD TO DEFEAT - something you keep forgetting]

Millions of lives are saved.

World peace is restored and lasts to this day.
[REALLY?]

You see, Gnome, your problem is that you are totally ignorant of the history of the period, yet feel compelled to argue points from ignorance. It is you who are looking only at one tiny fraction of the picture. It is not your fault - you neither know enough about the subject under discussion nor understand enough about it - which is strange having as you did a Father who fled Poland to come to Great Britain during the war. It is you who has absolutely no imagination.

World war is far more complicated and the results are not always one side winds and one side looses, or alternatively one side wins and one side loses, which oddly enough is always the case in any war, "World" or not. Experience shows us that it the ensuing "Peace" that is not always won.

Just above you say yourself, "Why would America HAVE TO become a superpower?" Well, your are now showing signs of thinking outside your fixed parameters. Keep it up and you may be surprised at the results. - Well yes I may well be surprised and perhaps, you never know maybe one of you monkeys will answer a direct question for a change.