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Thread #162232   Message #3864725
Posted By: Teribus
06-Jul-17 - 04:59 PM
Thread Name: BS: Time to choose on June 8th-UK Elections
Subject: RE: BS: Time to choose on June 8th-UK Elections
Nothing imaginary about it apart from Hitler getting his war in 1938 - Chamberlain, Daladier and Mussolini prevented that but they only succeeded in delaying the start of the war - But shall we run through them Gnome?

1: Hitler gets his War according to plan in 1938 - Hitler got his war in 1939 - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

2: Czechoslovakia is invaded and taken over in 1938 - This happened although an armed invasion was not required - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

3: Hitler gets his hands on the Czech armaments industry - This happened - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

4: Hitler attacks Holland, Belgium and France and defeats them using the same plan as was used on 10th May 1940 (Oddly enough Gnome the same plan as devised by Schlieffen in 1905) - The results most certainly would have been the same most likely within a shorter time scale. - This happened - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

5: So in 46 days or less, Hitler is standing on the cliffs of the Pas de Calais looking through the white cliffs of Dover - This happened - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

It would be a Fact that had the above happened in 1938 there undoubtedly would have been no radar masts, and no Spitfires.

Without the Spitfire what was known as the "Miracle of Dunkirk" would not have happened, with complete air superiority the German Luftwaffe would have had free rein over the channel and over the beaches. Even as it was the British only expected to lift off 45,000 men at the most - Fact. With no successful evacuation the entire BEF "in the bag" would have ended up as prisoners of war.

By the bye it is also a FACT that under the leadership of Sir John French the far smaller BEF of 1914 engaged and managed to delay German forces that were far superior in numbers and in artillery while still maintaining themselves as a fighting force - something the BEF of 1939/1940 failed to do.

6: Germany through air superiority defeats Britain in the Battle of Britain and having no army, or equipment to defend itself in the event of a German invasion Great Britain is forced to ask for terms.

Without radar and without the Spitfire and Hurricane Squadrons Great Britain WOULD have lost the Battle of Britain - nobody with any knowledge of the period would challenge that statement - so no imagination required here either Gnome.

7: After a short period of consolidation Hitler puts into operation his attack on Russia, to get there of course he must get rid of the minor inconvenience that is Poland. Poland, who were perfectly happy to grab bits of Czechoslovakia, have no allies and are surrounded by enemies Germany, Hungary and Russia. As happened in 1939 Poland is overrun and defeated by Germany, Russia and Hungary in one month and five days - Poland is no more. - This happened - Fact - no imagination required or employed.

8: Your Dad Gnome cannot get to Britain - Fact - with Great Britain a Nazi Puppet State there would be point in your father fleeing to Great Britain would there Gnome - no imagination required or employed in working that out.