If you want a shining example of what drives people away, read today's 04.00 am post on this thread. Clearly, the irony has escaped its author. And it not the most abusive of his many abusive posts by a long chalk.

It's also odd that he claims that we have driven people away. After all those years of absence he was atttracted to return to join the fray, as was Shakey. I think we may actually draw people in, Dave. Not necessarily life's greatest desirables...