".and you just hate the Church"
Who wouldn't hate an organistion that has covered up and facilitated the persistent rape of children for decades
YOuu defend these crimes by refusing to discuss them
Instead you use the thread as a soapbox to trumpet your hatred of homosexuals
If are the best Church can offer in its defence it deserves to be brought into line and controlled
These rapes have nothing to do with homosexuality - gays are no more prone to paedophilia's than any other section of society
In fact most cases of paedophelia come from withing the family or from family friends - I believe you have something to say about "family values".
Jim Carroll