If you make a provocative post, it ain't no surprise you get provocative answers.

Agreed. Now, point out where the premise of the thread was provocative. To save you looking it up, here is the opening question -

Carry on shooting by all means but can we not make sure it is managed in a way that is better for all concerned? Including the grouse!

The thread was based on trying to find a better way of doing things. Instead it has turned into yet another muscle-flexing, point scoring, petty exercise in how to turn a friendly question into an mindless argument. Carry on by all means but I want no part of it.

DtG