I know that people one either side of any discussion are often accused of being irrational etc etc ..........

However when one individual actually names a person in their post who has not even contributed to the thread in any way, shape, size or form, one has to consider whether any of that persons posts are valid.

I refer to:

"Note to Gnome and to Raggy in this context the phrase "the beginning of time" is merely an expression - it does not mean literally from the beginning of time). The very first thing they embarked on having won their "independence" was a civil war"

Dave, up to that point had not posted to this thread at all.

Teri-towelling attacked him without reason.

Make your own minds up !