The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #162822   Message #3878609
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Sep-17 - 07:01 AM
Thread Name: BS: Robert Owen
Subject: RE: BS: Robert Owen
You are totally ignoring the full facts of Owen and relying on single line quotes out of context
Was not Owen a Socialist
Didn'#t he and his followers reject religious reform and opt for changing the system?
Weren't they founder members of the first Workers International?
Which of these is inaccurate and on what grounds do you equate Owen with Leverhulme and Titus Salt?
Contant repetition of an inaccuracy doesn't make it any less inaccurate
You said reformers brought about social change, yet these are the only two you have come up with to date
I ask again - who are these revolutionary reformers who changed society
You mentioned Seebohm Rowntree - who was a reformist Liberal Quaker who worked for working improvements
His first efforts came about in 1899, long after the Unions had already started to turn the 'World Upside Down'
The Quakers have always had my respect - as far as I am concerned, they are the only Christians who attempt to practice true Christianity
Your lot were as exploitative manipulators and brainwashers on behalf of the system, as bad as the worst of the mill owners
Now - names, dates, and actions please - stop alluding to them and tell us who they were and what they did
Jim Carroll