From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 12 Oct 17 - 05:52 PM
The two posts are completely unrelated,
They are on the same thread, and deal with the same subject matter, and are posted by the same person. - How 'related' do you want them to be?

there's nothing inconsistent in them and you are being mischievous. No-one I know is trying to "overturn a democratic vote." Those who are campaigning for a change of mind are going about it entirely democratically. I didn't say you were trying to do it by force. The democratic vote was to leave the EU. You are putting your arguments to try to persuade people that UK should remain in the EU. If this happens the result of the referendum will have been overturned. Isn't that what I said?

No-one is planting bombs, pointing guns, rigging votes, threatening people on the doorstep, organising violent demonstrations, talking hate speech or kidnapping the prime minister. and I never said anything to suggest that they were.

In a free country with free speech I'm fully entitled to make the case, even now, for remaining in the EU as strongly and fervently as I can. My opinion is that the referendum was fatally flawed, both because the bar was set inappropriately and in that the campaign was a complete disgrace from start to finish. I'm not going to be told by anyone that my demurring from that is "undemocratic" when it's actually precisely the opposite. Your accusing me of "trying to overturn a democratic vote" is emotional, undemocratic, fascistic and is a full reflection of your insecurity. My view is that most leavers are now privately reconsidering their position.
You are entitled to hold that view, no matter how inaccurate it might be. I have a similar view that many who voted to remain have since seen that the promised cataclysms never happened and that a further vote may command an even higher majority to vote 'Leave'.

Of course, hubris may prevent many from coming out - for now. The whole thing is collapsing day by day around your ears. Our ears. Every night the news is apocalyptic. It's an impending bloody disaster that we are being steered into by the most inept government I can remember in my lifetime.
Yes, the current government does appear somewhat inept, but at least they are trying to do the job that the people have elected them, and instructed them, to do.

You won't admit it now. I do understand that. You have your pride. But you were wrong and, deep down, you know it. I'll give you six months, by which time you'll have to eat shit.
A lovely turn of phrase you have there. do you mean "eat your words" or were you brought up a 'potty-mouth'. Your mother would be so proud!

Or you could act with a bit more grace and humility and admit, finally, that brexit is going to be the biggest disaster in generations. You will have to, sooner or later.
Dream on!