Yes but you see, Keith, that little extract also includes mention of our commitments and obligations as a member state. With you it's all about our "rights." You really can't get this little Englander guff out of your head, can you? The plain fact is that an amicable financial settlement now will oil the cogs of trade negotiations. We will end up with a better deal. That's the real world. In your world we get nowhere, as we are seeing. It doesn't matter how much visceral hatred you have of the EU. Put that to the fore and we get a bad deal. Well done. We are a little country causing trouble for a huge trading block. Once May, Davis and co. get that into their skulls instead of living in fear of being seen to be weak in the eyes of their own backwoodsmen (sorry again, John), we can start working in the interests of the country instead of the interests of your Tory party.