No point in continuing the discussion with Jim, Raggy. I came to the conclusion a few posts back that we seem to be speaking a different language. I know what I mean. I know what you mean. You know what I mean. Jim knows what he means but I don't think either you or I ever will. You go and play some music, which everyone in the world bar one knows is folk. I will go and play my accordion tonight and toddle off to Malham with the grandkids tomorrow. Jim can do whatever it is he does and we will all be happy. No point in continuing the discussion.

DtG