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Thread #162917   Message #3884644
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Oct-17 - 05:55 PM
Thread Name: What is Happening to our Folk Clubs
Subject: RE: What is Happening to our Folk Clubs
"We all hear what you are saying - BUT we don't all agree with you!"then why not put uop an argument Tim
A definition would do, failing that, a reason why folk clubs should be allowed to be swamped until it becomes uncomfortable to sing folk songs in them
Simples
"so don't let it bother you in the way it seems to"
We are part of setting them up for the enjoyment of folk songs - Lloyd, MacColl, Seeger McCulloch and Campbell, The Campbell Folk Group
The early guests wer Harry Cox, Sam Larner, Jeannie Robertson - all Folksingers
"I could of course ask for evidence of my insulting you Jim but I know you will not come up with any."
"No point in continuing the discussion with Jim, Raggy. I came to the conclusion a few posts back that we seem to be speaking a different language. "
"No point in continuing, Jim. You have proven everything that I have said over and over again. Everyone but you can see it. It is impossible to have a sensible conversation with you any more so I will no longer attempt it. Sad to see you go down this route but it is your own choice."
" I can guarantee that your next step will be to say that no-one has taken you up on it so you have won. Keith has taught you well. "
"My post means that they both bluster, insult, bully, hear no voice but their own and denigrate those who disagree with them, Guest. Whether one gives facts or not does not detract from that. The two traits are not mutually exclusive."
"You really have lost it, Jim. Sorry. I have tried and tried to be reasonable but when it is met with hostility, invective and sheer bloody mindedness I will eventually react. You have become Teribus."
Want any more Dave?
"I am more than happy to take Tim's advice and agree to disagree. Will you do the same?"
Of course I will Dave - why wouldn't I?
That does not stop me from expressing my opinion on the clubs though, nor does the lack of arguments here change my opinion one iota
AS far as I am concerned folk music is what it is documented to be
If I din't understand that I have several centuries wiotrth of documentation to back me up -
The track record of those who set up the scene would be good enough for me if I hadn't spent most of my life listening to it
I only need Walter Pardon's word to convice me - or the singing of the Travellers, or Tom Lenihan or any of the singers on our website or The Stewarts......
Whose word would I take - theirs or someone who can't tell the difference between Tifty's Annie and I Don't Like Mondays
Tough one that!!
Your dedication to folk song is clear from the scramble to take up my offer of two of the best series on folk song ever made!
Of course, I fully realise that if you had taken them you would have had to tear them to shreds in order to prove your point
Ah well - you win some, you lose some
" exactly the same way below the line but you all cheer him on there and say what a fine fellow he is."
And you7 spend you time attacking homosexuals praising fascists and demanding refugees be forced to wear yellow stars like Donald Trump below the line
Folk song - an undefinable musical form - new one on me lads
Wonder why I wasted my life
G'NIGHT ALL
Jim Carroll
By the way Vic - there is no argument here - if there is, show me where it is