Tell you what, lets try another approach. There is a lot of bad singing going on in clubs and there is a lot of woeful ignorance about the Song Tradition as well. Now the question is how are we to get persons of any age interested again in this beautiful music of the people. Well I suggest not by rowing among ourselves for a start. If I was a young man interested in folk Song I would have run a mile by now if I had seen this thread. So does anybody have any ideas? Could something like the 'Not the finger in the ear' TV show updated be of any use? I know it was decades ago and had a silly title but it might be a start. Maybe a documentary featuring all the younger performers around might help. I am just grasping at straws here, and somebody else with a more considered post might weigh in here. When it comes right down to it we all want the same thing don't we?