Have lost hours of my life reading this thread, People who I would be with in your average group of 100 slagging each other over minute differences, compared to the chart, loving, X Factor, Karaoke loving majority.

I have a strong interest in traditional folk song. I used to live in Wolverhampton and was always disappointed that clubs which described themselves as Folk Clubs offered so little that I would consider folk ( you'll notice that I have not offered my definition of folk).

I moved to Southampton and fell in with some Morris men who sing much more of what I consider Traditional English songs and I enjoy singing with them. I go to 3 local sessions which each describe themselves as folk clubs. Each is very different. Each is a reflection of the people who are willing to keep the opportunity for others to come and show what they've got open.

That's the reality. It's got nothing to do with what is correct or anything else. It's a niche where people who are willing to make the effort run things to their own taste and you can't blame them for doing so.