so O'Carolan, Peter St John, Ralph McTell and The Spinners, and me.....not folk music. does it flipping matter?

All those things are in folk clubs. happening in folk clubs....right or wrong....happening.... happening in a folk club near you tonight. Have you seen the old man in the fields of Athenry.?

so where does that leave us?

the OP was pissed off about declining standards of technical ability. has that any relevance to what people play. I don't think so. Any kind of music can be buggered up.

perhaps we need a sort of Blind Pew character to come and tip the crap singers the black spot. deposed by thunder!