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Thread #162917   Message #3886037
Posted By: Dave the Gnome
31-Oct-17 - 05:15 PM
Thread Name: What is Happening to our Folk Clubs
Subject: RE: What is Happening to our Folk Clubs
The suggestion 'I don't like Mondays' came up quite early in this discussion
That is legally "owned" by Bob Geldof - where does that fit into your "I do not think folk songs belong to anyone"
You are about as consistent as anybody else here.


I have never said 'I don't like Mondays' is a folk song though have I, Jim. I am not sure who is being inconsistent but it is not me.

From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 03:13 AM

"folk medium is now sterile and consequently in it's death throes"
They said exactly the same thing about Shakespeare during various periods of history and there he is still filling theatres and infesting our televisions

From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 02:45 PM

You are selling a pig in a rapidly shrinking poke
By trying to please all of the people all of the time you are conning the people all of the time
Your idea of folk song lack logic and it lacks principle - and it's fucked up a folk scene that had all of those things


Which is it to be? Folk music will survive, as Shakespeare has, or folk music is a rapidly shrinking fucked up scene? You can't have it both ways.

And folk song does not belong to one particular social or economic group either. To suggest it does is exclusivity in the extreme. Folk music belongs to everyone and everyone is entitled to their opinion about it. You stick with your heroes by all means but do not presume to insist that yours is the only valid view and opinion. That is the route to tyranny.

DtG