Not grumbling - I accepted that my (very moderate) boozing-career was over in 2005 and, once you've accepted it, it's not so bad. If you read back, you'll find that this conversation arose from a brief discussion between Big Al and me about weight-loss, and that I was, in fact, explaining that my weight loss didn't deserve his congratulations, it was the result of a protracted, very painful, and very debilitating illness. That's all. ????