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Thread #162855   Message #3890217
Posted By: Nigel Parsons
24-Nov-17 - 03:10 PM
Thread Name: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 24 Nov 17 - 02:38 PM
Stop acting thick, Nigel. They were surveys, polls, taking samples. Not a secret ballot. People with metaphorical clipboards asking members after the event how they voted


Exactly. But you failed to mention any of that when you made your original claim, which I'll quote in full this time, just in case you try to claim it was taken out of context:
I agree with Stu there, Jim. It's become clear since the referendum that brexit is going to be disastrous unless promises are broken in respect of the customs union and single market. Labour is not morally bound to continue to support brexit in my opinion, but in terms of realpolitik it has absolutely no option but to stay publicly pro-brexit. If Labour now declared for remaining, you can imagine the field day the Tories would have. There are strains. Ninety percent of Labour Party members voted remain.

No caveats there. No "polls show that 90% . . ." or "90% of the Labour Party now claim to have voted Remain". Just a very straight:
Ninety percent of Labour Party members voted remain

Calling me 'thick' because I respond to what you put out as 'facts' (and the quote marks are deliberate, as what you are claiming now is different from what you claimed originally)is just a sign that you are losing the argument.