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Thread #163160   Message #3890374
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Nov-17 - 12:43 PM
Thread Name: Stepdancing - how much is Irish?
Subject: RE: Stepdancing - how much is Irish?
"Was the horses skull under the floor put there to make a resonant space for dance"
Yes Mo - display dance by the men - battering.
We discovered similar practices in Northern Greece dating back to when churches were built in hollows if order not to be spotted easily by the Turks
We were told that animal skulls were placed under the floors and in the pillars to improve the acoustics
There are still cottages here
Off topic - clogs
A story recorded by a friend of ours back in the mid-sixties

DICKIE BITHELL AND THE KICKING MATCH, Jack Oakes, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Years ago there used to be kicking matches and they used stand up and put their 'ands on their shoulders, 'bout a yard apart, and they used kick at then-shins wi' clogs on. And, er .... owd Dickie Bithell was the champion of Wigan. And this stranger came, came in this pub this 'ere day. So they had a game of dominoes and then they stalled talking about these kicking matches. So me dad says, "Well, owd Dickie Bithell's the champion of Lancashire." So this feller kept quiet. So me dad said again, "Owd Dickie Bithell's the champion of Lancashire."
So this feller's turned round to me dad, he says: "If you'll give me the first kickin', I'll have a go at owd Dickie."
Owd Dickie says, "Right, put your two pound down." So this stranger puts two pound down. So they go outside in a field and they stand up together and bate of one another's shoulders, arm's length. So this stranger takes the first kick -1 wish I could show you - and he kicks owd Dickie. Well owd Dickie goes rigid hisself to take the strain. So owd Dickie had his kick; so he kicks the stranger and the stranger did the same; take the strain.
So he carried on four or five times. So owd Dickie turned round to me dad, he said, "This stranger's no mug; he's a fair 'un."
"Go on, cany on Dickie", me dad said. So he carried on three or four more times.
Owd Dickie says, "I'm finished; he's too good. Give him the money." So me dad, looking at owd Dickie's legs, there were blood, snot and 'air hanging down his leg, he were in a bad way, you know.
So he says, "All right, give him the money."
So they said to t'other feller, "Let's have a look at your leg." When they looked at his leg, he'd a wooden leg. So they took the two pound off him and clear him out of pub.
Recorded by Denis Turner, 1966.

The 'sport' of kicking appears to have been popular throughout England until comparatively recent times. We have been told that, in Norfolk, contestants would sit on opposite sides of a pub table and take turns at kicking each other's shins until one gave up. The contest is all the more vicious in Jack Oakes' story as the clogs the combatants wore would have been metal tipped. Dickie Bithell would seem to have been a local character; Mr. Oakes had a number of stories about him.