Yeah, fine thought,and I loved Ivans singing too, I had the pleasure of knowing Liz/s dad and he was a phenomenal gardner...and I am sure he would like the thought of going "back to the earth" and reappearing as flowers... and he grew wonderful tomatoes as well, Liz and her SO don't eat Tomatoes so every year he would send me several pounds with Liz when she had been visiting in the summer... Yeah Charlie , where ever you are... and to Kats Mum and Sins too....and to {{{{Kat}}}}} and {{{{Sins}}}